RoxiSC wrote:
zippy wrote:
eh. I think you're giving Joss Whedon too much credit. He made a few good TV shows, he didn't re-invent the wheel. end.
I know I'm probably giving him too little credit now!
What you're saying seems to me like arguing that J.K. Rowling wrote the best vision of Wizards and magic ever published.
No, Tolkein did.
I dunno, Ursula Le Guin or Terry Pratchett would give him a run for his money.
RoxiSC wrote:
Unless you watched through all 12 seasons of the Buffy/Angel verse, you can't really comment, because it's not something you can glean from any one (or even few) episodes.
Well I haven't watched very episode of Buffy and Angel religiously but I've seen a decent amount.
Joss Whedon or somebody working for him wrote:
Buffy: That thing that was haunting you...
Angel: It wasn't haunting me. It was showing me.
Buffy: Showing you?
Angel: What I am.
Buffy: Were.
Angel: And ever shall be. Look, I'm weak. I've never been anything else. It's not the demon in me that needs killing, Buffy. It's the man.
Buffy: You're weak. Everybody is. Everybody fails. Angel, you have the power to do real good, to make amends. But if you die now, then all that you ever were was a monster.
That is good writing. The prayer-y bit (almost quoting the Glory be to the Father).
But I think Angel dropped the ball in terms of distinguishing itself from Buffy. It starts out with Angel the Private I, saving lost souls etc. etc. with the Lady Cop and all. Became almost just Buffy with different wallpaper. (I don't mean literal wallpaper)