Prayer - it does nothing.

solo2 · **Joined:** Mon Aug 13, 2007 16:45 **Posts:** 443

It's official.

Quote:

For eight years WN has tracked the case of the infamous Columbia Prayer
Study http://bobpark.physics.umd.edu/WN01/wn100501.html in which it was
claimed that intercessory prayer doubled the pregnancy rate of women
undergoing in vitro fertilization. It was, of course, a scam. A
California physician, Bruce Flamm, thought Columbia should disavow the
work, and the Journal of Reproductive Medicine should delete the clearly
fraudulent paper; neither happened. The response of one of the authors,
the wealthy owner of several fertility clinics in the US and Korea, was to
sue Flamm for everything he had. Flamm never blinked. This week the Court
of Appeals affirmed a lower-court decision tossing out the lawsuit. In
doing so, the Court also vindicated Thales of Miletus, who in the course of
explaining a total eclipse of the sun in 585 B.C. concluded that every
observable effect has a physical cause.

-Bob Park

Light · **Posted:** Wed Nov 04, 2009 04:55

This has long since been established, Solo.

Yet, to each his own.

Ringlets · **Posted:** Wed Nov 04, 2009 05:06

I think that prayer CAN help - but only when the pray-er is praying for something within their own control. I don't think it's so much the act of praying to god, but more the power of positive thinking.

Light · **Posted:** Wed Nov 04, 2009 07:47

I believe it can work, but only in a psychosomatic type of way.

If you want it to help, it will sort of deal.

solo2 · **Joined:** Mon Aug 13, 2007 16:45 **Posts:** 443

Ringlets wrote:

I think that prayer CAN help - but only when the pray-er is praying for something within their own control. I don't think it's so much the act of praying to god, but more the power of positive thinking.

You might be right, but it's a shame they don't understand that.

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