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solo2 · **Joined:** Mon Aug 13, 2007 16:45 **Posts:** 411

LIFE wrote:

lol completely deviated off the original question i see

That will happen to a lot of threads here.

Ringlets · **Posted:** Fri Nov 06, 2009 03:30

zippy wrote:

My slight sticking point is with:

Quote:

Do you believe that only things which can be demonstrated to be true are valid beliefs.

I think I know why this is foolishness but I'm not sure.

I think it's kind of a trap question.

And also, if something is demonstrably true, then surely it's a fact? Facts do not require belief. You can believe what you like - The sun travels round the earth, the earth's core is filled with marshmallows, whatever - but scientific fact says that you're wrong and in fact Earth orbits the Sun which in turn orbits the Galactic centre and the Earth's core is molten rock.

LATER:
I looked at some forum posts you linked to, and discovered this little gem:

syetenb wrote:

The argument is that God is the precondition of intelligibility. If the Bible were untrue, you could never know that it was untrue, because you lose the foundations of intelligibility with which you criticize it

Wow. Just wow.

I'm sorry. Did I miss the start of this thread? Was it moved from another forum? *confused here*

solo2 · **Joined:** Mon Aug 13, 2007 16:45 **Posts:** 411

Ringlets wrote:

zippy wrote:

My slight sticking point is with:

Quote:

Do you believe that only things which can be demonstrated to be true are valid beliefs.

I think I know why this is foolishness but I'm not sure.

I think it's kind of a trap question.

And also, if something is demonstrably true, then surely it's a fact? Facts do not require belief. You can believe what you like - The sun travels round the earth, the earth's core is filled with marshmallows, whatever - but scientific fact says that you're wrong and in fact Earth orbits the Sun which in turn orbits the Galactic centre and the Earth's core is molten rock.

LATER:
I looked at some forum posts you linked to, and discovered this little gem:

syetenb wrote:

The argument is that God is the precondition of intelligibility. If the Bible were untrue, you could never know that it was untrue, because you lose the foundations of intelligibility with which you criticize it

Wow. Just wow.

I'm sorry. Did I miss the start of this thread? Was it moved from another forum? *confused here*

Zippy is referring to a page on my website:

http://www.solo1y.com/ocs1.htm

He posted that during a time when he had justifiable reason to believe that no one else would ever see it apart from me.

zippy · **Posted:** Tue Nov 10, 2009 11:09

Quote:

He posted that during a time when he had justifiable reason to believe that no one else would ever see it apart from me.

true.

Ringlets · **Posted:** Thu Nov 12, 2009 12:05

solo2 wrote:

Zippy is referring to a page on my website:

http://www.solo1y.com/ocs1.htm

He posted that during a time when he had justifiable reason to believe that no one else would ever see it apart from me.

*phew* I'm really glad my lack of understanding did not stem from creeping maturity or some other heinous metal illness.

Thundercunt · **Joined:** Tue Oct 20, 2009 08:38 **Posts:** 59

zippy · **Posted:** Thu Nov 19, 2009 05:39

Right now, there's an ad at the top of the page for "Amazing Bible software".

solo2 · **Joined:** Mon Aug 13, 2007 16:45 **Posts:** 411

That's brilliant. I don't see any of those ads though, due to Firefox + AdBlock.

Ringlets · **Posted:** Fri Nov 20, 2009 01:13

solo2 wrote:

That's brilliant. I don't see any of those ads though, due to Firefox + AdBlock.

I thought you'd paid extra to have the ads blocked. I didn't even know they were there. FF & Adblock RULE!!! :mrgreen:

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